they said that on another day we'll vote the other way. >> john mccain by the way broke his own rule of not using the filibuster. he said in the past he has pbro that rule. he is worried about his re-election in 2014. they said they are going to vote for closure. what do they think they are going to find in ten days? do they want to use it for ten more days of argument about benghazi something over which chuck haegle had nothing to do with. >> it sounds like for mccain and gram they want to drag it out. >> one of the most important things for people to understand about the way the senate works and the way that the filibuster works, one way to look at the senate, is a finite amount of legislating hours. every hour you can burn, that is a win. it is a finite budget. when you can spend that time, and it eats up a lot of time, you are shrinking the amount of time. so, one of the huge effects of the constant filibustering is more chewing up the clock making it impossible to use every hour of that time. this is the perfect example. what they have gained themselves are hours that no one is

example, republicans turning on each other. john mccain tried to humiliate nominee chuck hagel. and this is just the beginning. >> are you going to answer the question, senator hagel. the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straight forward question. >> but karma caught up with mccain quickly. about an hour after that, he berated hagel. here's how rand paul reacted to mccain's comments. let's listen. >> i find the argument spurious and really frankly absurd. >> on laura ingram's radio show, louisiana senator marco rubi on the emigration issue. >> i love and respect marco, i think he's amazingly naive. >> wow, in other words, he cares about hispanics. in a colossal put down, chris chistie hung the blame for post-sandy suffering squarely on republicans. >> there's only one group to blame for the continued suffering of these innocent victims. the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. >> you know, joy, this was an old democratic problem. >> yes. >> it was called democrats in disarray. you could put it up on every newspaper, every evening news show. >> you had

senator john mccain on fox news yesterday explaining why exactly he is participating in filibustering chuck hagel's nomination to be secretary of defense. he says chuck hagel is too darn disagreeable. so says john mccain. quote, in a heated dispute over immigration law overhaul, mccain screamed f you at john cornyn who had been raising concerns about the legislation. this is chicken -- stuff, mccain snapped at cornyn. are you calling me stupid chuck grassley once said? no, replied senator mccain. i'm calling you an -- jerk. at a gop meeting last fall, mccain erupted out of the blue at the respected budget chairman pete domenici, quote, only an -- would put together a budget like this. a speech about all his years in the senate through all the heated debates no one had ever called him that. another man might have taken a moment to check his temper, but mccain went on, i wouldn't call you that unless you really were that. >> you can disagree, but if you're disagreeable, then people don't forget that. >> ah, the arbiter of disagreeable. it is rich to hear that as the supposed criticism o

defense. one of his biggest opponent is also a military friend, senator john mccain. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no. i think it is far more complicated than that. >> that is the tone on capitol hill. >> the police department held a moving ceremony today to remember an officer killed in the line of doubty he was killed four decades ago. reserve officers lester coal was hit while setting out flares. he was the first palo alto police officer killed in the line of duty. department the department had an official grave site ceremony to remember him. the chief says the tribute was long overdue. >> we kept thinking at some point we should do a better job. >> coal's widow said her husband loved helping people and loved volunteering. she said he wouldn't have minded that the ceremony was 44 years late. >>> san francisco's arch bishop is making international news comparing same sem marriage with male breast-feeding. a catholic newspa

attended one of these town hall meetings in arizona, which the republican senator there, john mccain, has been holding in his home state. the woman who stopped the tucson, arizona shooter was there in the room when this happened today at john mccain's town hall. >> my 24-year-old son alex was murdered in a movie theater in aurora, colorado. these assault weapons allow a shooter to fire many rounds without having to reload. these weapons do not belong on our streets. >> i can tell you right now you need some straight talk. that assault weapons ban will not pass the congress of the united states. [ applause ] >> i said that was today. that was actually yesterday. john mccain's arizona constituents, you can hear them at the end there applauding boisterously at his ability to bestow some patented john mccain straight talk on that woman, who obviously needs it, that woman whose son was killed less than a year ago in the aurora, colorado mass shooting. that's the footage that was aired by channel 3 in phoenix. obviously, there was an edit between the end of the woman's question and the part whe

nasty words to spew about the people running it or hoping to. john mccain, who served the country so admirably, has become an angry fellow from dawn until dusk taking an occasional break to remember who he is and saying enough of this when his new allies get out of hand. when ted cruz starts attacking the loyalty to america of one of mccain's fellow vietnam vets, a combat vet at that. the viciousness is something we haven't seen before because of the combination of mccarthyism and this weird unconnectedness, attacking chuck hagel, for example, because no one will give us info or anyone info about the benghazi situation even though hagel wasn't even in the government when benghazi happened. sick stuff. and it seems to be growing in inverse proportion to obama's popularity. the better he looks, the worse these characters, inhofe, cruz, mccain, and lindsey graham, are determined to look. did you notice the smile on john boehner's face sitting up there behind the president during the state of the union? if you did, you're imagining things. so afraid of the hard hating right of republican

the new litmus test. let's listen to john mccain, who has been on a couple sides of this things. he said a short time ago on fox news this. let's watch. >> they'll probably get the votes when we return from the recess unless something else -- unless another something pops up, and that's doubtful that it will. but to be honest with you, neil, it goes back to there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was a republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly, at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover, said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense, and was very anti his own party, and people don't forget that. >> that seems honest. let's go to senator claire mccaskill who has been tough in dealing on the armed services committee with some of the zealots. i try to find political motive. why is ted cruz, the new kid on the block, acting so ferociously? why are they doing this to a guy who is a middle-of-the-roader? i don't get it. your thoughts, senator? >> i think it's extremism. i think this is somebody wh

chuck hagel. nbc's kelly o'donnell has more. >> reporter: john mccain seized on hagel's opposition to the surge in iraq. >> the question is, are we right or wrong, that's a pretty straightforward question. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no anxious. >> reporter: over his 2008 comments related to israel that a quote jewish lobby intimidate lot of people in congress. >> name one person in your opinion who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> well first -- >> name one. >> i don't know. >> reporter: hagel was repeatedly pressed by both democrats and republicans to make clear this point on israel. >> i strongly support israel. >> reporter: hagel had on the terror organization, incorrectly referred to the u.s. policy on iran and nuclear weapons as containment. >> by the way, i've just been handed a note that i misspoke. >> reporter: hagel said he fully backs the president's position that iran cannot be allowed to get nuclear weapons and says the u.s. should talk to iran. >> that was nbc's kelly o'connell. >>> three stories that we'll be developi

, john mccain, and marco rubio to support their efforts on the issue and urged the senate to pass a bill as soon as possible. senator rubio's office tells nbc news the senator appreciated the president's call and is hopeful they can come up with a bill that will win bipartisan support. we will be right back. that is good news. >>> we're back. we've all heard the story of oscar pistorius, the inspiring double amputee olympic athlete who is being accused of killing his girlfriend. the blade runner has been charged with murdering his 30-year-old model girlfriend in the early morning hours of valentine's day. pistorius was in court again today, pleading innocent. prosecutors said it was premeditated murder. fans were stunned when they heard about the incident, stunned their hero might be capable of such an act as murder. let's think about this. why are we so quick to give athletes the hero title or assumption thinking they're super on and off the field? now pistorius joins other athletes who have fallen far from heaven, o.j. simpson, a-rod, lance armstrong, and tiger woods. all these sensati

came from a close friend. senator john mccain lit into chuck hagel for the troop surge in iraq. >> whether you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i made those comments. >> i want to know if you were right or wrong. that's a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> the surge assisted in the objective. but if we review the record a little bit -- >> will you please answer the question? were you correct or incorrect when you said that -- >> now, despite some conservative opposition, hagel is expected to win confirmation as the pentagon chief. >>> americans have been buying guns in record numbers lately, ever since the talk about tightening gun-control laws. but there is a different type of firearm dealer also doing a booming business these days. reporter joe vazquez shows us it's do it yourself. >> reporter: don't wanna buy a gun? >> sometimes you want things done right. you gotta do it yourself. >> reporter: how about making your own? >> we are flooded with orders right now. >> reporter: our san diego affiliate found a gun owner in oceanside that said it

mouths of john mccain and lindsey graham as they slashed away at war hero hagel. badgering the witness is too nice a description. the hawks swirled like buzzards sweeping down, pecking and pulling at the skin of a former colleague who dared to say this country's been too ready to enter wars the american people quickly wish we'd never gotten into. what's with this hatred now centered in the american sunbelt? what do we make of this poll that shows two out of three texas republicans now want our president impeached? why the cussedness, why the range war, why the hatred of anyone who dares to stand with obama? why can't politics be a matter of belief and honest disagreement, not hatred? why the sick little intramurals we saw today? we begin with senator jeanne shaheen of new hampshire. i want you to watch this back-and-forth between john mccain and the witness today, chuck hagel. let's take a look. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? >> my -- >

panetta as defense secretary. kelly o'donnell has more. >> john mccain seized on hagel's vocal opposition to the surge of troops in iraq in 2007. >> the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straight forward question. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no answer. >> over his 2008 comments related to israel that a "jewish lobby," "intimidates a lot of people in congress." >> name one person in your opinion who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> well, first -- >> name one. >> i don't know. >> hagel was repeatedly pressed by both democrats and republicans to make clear his commitment to israel's security. >> i strongly support israel. >> and clarify his stand on iran. he incorrectly referred to the policy on iran and nuclear weapons as containment. >> i've just been handed a note that i misspoke. >> reporter: he said he fully backs the president's position that iran cannot be allowed to get nuclear weapons and says the u.s. should talk to iran. >> that's kelly o'donnell reporting. >>> three stories that will be developing la

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. >> chris, lynn, thank you very much. have a good weekend. >> you, too. >> coming up, john mccain's admission on why some republicans blocked chuck hagel's vote. >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was a republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly. >> so is it payback? we'll have much more on what mccain had to say and when a vote might take place. plus, the latest on the near live 1,000 people injured today from a meteorite that exploded over russia and nasa is at this minute tracking an asteroid that is set to fly by earth in about five minutes. the closest to earth. about five minutes from now. join our conversation on twitter. you can find out @tamronhall and my team is at @newsnation. stop! stop! stop! come back here! humans -- we are beautifully imperfect creatures living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insurance has your back with great ideas like our optional better car replacement. if your car is totaled, we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. call... and ask one of our insurance experts about it today. hello?! we b

hagel. former presented and -- former friend and colleague, senator john mccain try to get straight talk on what is ahead for hagel. plus our round table looks at what is at stake in the hagel fight and the obama agenda as the president squares off against an eternally divided gop. we will hear from the following. it's all coming up next. [ nyquil bottle ] you know i relieve coughs, sneezing, fevers... [ tylenol bottle ] me too! and nasal congestion. [ tissue box ] he said nasal congestion. yeah...i heard him. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't. in the middle of the night it can be frustrating. it's hard to turn off and go back to sleep. intermezzo is the first and only prescription sleep aid approved for use as needed in the middle of the night when you can't get back to sleep. it's an effective sleep medicine you don't take before bedtime. take it in bed only when you need it and have at least four hours left for sleep. do not take intermezzo if you have had an allergic reaction to drugs containing z

colleagues yesterday in a bruising confirmation hearing. the sharpest exchange against senator john mccain who criticized hagel's opposition to the troop surge in iraq. and hagel apologized for using the term the jewish lobby in the past. >> i have already said i regret referencing the jewish lobby. i should have said pro israel. i think it is the only time on the record that i have ever said that. >> a republican plan to vote against him. he has backing among many democrats. >>> blinding snow blamed for a deadly pileup on a michigan highway. the mile long stretch of crashes involving 30 trucks and cars. three people were killed including two children believed to be siblings. and at least a dozen others were hospitalized. witnesses say they were driving on i-75 when conditions went from clear to whiteout in just a matter of seconds. >>> a similar scene along a snowy highway west of minneapolis. three dozen big rigs, trucks, cars smashed into one another shutting down interstate 70. at least ten were hospitalized. the extreme conditions are putting part of the country in a deep freez

norm? >> let's talk about senator john mccain who heightened a few issues here the republicans have with chuck hagel. >> to be honest with you, it goes back to, there's a lot of ill-will towards senator hagel because when he was a republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly, at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover, said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense. and was very anti-his own party and people. people don't forget that. you can disagree but if you're disagreeable, people don't forget that. >> what do you think is the gop's strategy here and is there a sense at all that they might be creating more bad p.r. for the party because hagel appears to be on his way to being confirmed anyway? you heard david saying that they're just perhaps diminishing his ability to lead to his best ability down the road by all of this. >> i think that is sort of the conundrum here. the party that's supposedly the defense party that so strongly supports the military, supposedly has been able to use that little piece of p.r. in t

. republican senators john mccain, roy blunt, roger wicker, susan collins, lisa murkowski, all of these said before today that they might vote no on chuck hagel, but they wouldn't block a vote from the minority. they wouldn't filibuster. well, today when push came to shove, it was only susan collins and lisa murkowski who kept their word. the others said they wouldn't filibuster and then they did it anyway. john mccain, row wicker, lindsey graham. they all did it. senator graham says he does not want his filibuster today to be thought of as a filibuster even though that's what it is. he says he prefers to think of what he did is blocking the nomination because he wants to use it as leverage to get more information out of the administration on the president's birth certificate, i'm sorry i mean aliens in area 51. i'm sorry. i mean his thoughts about what happened in benghazi. what does hagel know about benghazi? nothing. he had nothing to do with it. but lindsey graham is filibustering his nomination over it anyway. since chuck hagel had nothing to do with it substantively, why block his nomi

this report. >> yes or no. >> reporter: senator john mccain grilled chuck hagel, president obama's defense secretary nominee about his opposition to the troop surge in iraq. >> and your refusal to answer whether you were right or wrong about it is going to have an impact on my judgment as to whether to vote for your confirmation or not. >> reporter: some republicans have said they won't support hagel. he tried to address their concerns. >> i'm on the record many times in speeches and on the floor of the senate and in the book i wrote in 2008 saying iran is a state sponsor of terrorism. >> reporter: hagel served as a senator from nebraska for 12 years. during that time he made controversial remarks about israel that are still under scrutiny. >> give me an example where we've been intimidated by the israeli jewish loib to do something dumb regarding israel or somewhere else? >> i can't give you any example. >> thank you. do you agree you shouldn't have said something like is that? >> yes, i do. >> reporter: if confirmed he'll be the first vietnam vet to lead the pentagon. >> i saw fr

breed aren't even as cool as john mccain. mccain is pretty cool as a personality. these guys, this new crowd. the key word in what john mccain said there was another, another cudgel. >> yeah. >> there's been -- in other words, the democrats have had the upper hand now for weeks now, if not months, and he's just saying -- when he said they've got more cudgels to beat us up with, that told me everything. >> it's even better because the president to some extent stands on the sidelines while they self-cudgel. they're beating themselves up. >> i think that's a six -- >> the president i'm perhaps belatedly coming to realize is really deft at using the outside game, which is how he started, social media, et cetera, using public sentiment and the outside game to pressure the congress without doing it himself directly in a way that divides the other party and forces them to come to him. he makes them come to him because -- he's for the most part hands off. we're saying why isn't he lbj or lincoln? that's not how this president operates. he operates with public sentiment from the outside. he

judgment. john mccain seized on hagel's vocal opposition to the surge of troops in iraq in 2007. >> the question, senator hagel, the question is, were you right or wrong. that's a pretty straightforward question. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no answer. >> reporter: hagel knew he who damage control to do. >> i should have used another term, and i'm sorry. >> reporter: over his 2008 comments related to israel that a, quote, jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people in congress. >> name one person, in your opinion, who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> well, first -- >> name one. >> i don't know. >> reporter: outside the hearing, senators of both parties were critical. >> i'm going to be candid. i think that chuck hagel is much more comfortable asking questions than answering them. >> i don't think it's going very well. >> reporter: hagel was repeatedly pressed by both democrats and republicans to make clear his commitment to israel's security. >> i strongly support israel. >> reporter: and clarify his stand on iran. hagel had voted a

damaging exchanges came from hagel's one-time friend and ally senator john mccain over hagel's opposition to the iraq troop surge. >> will you please answer the question, were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam. were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to the -- >> are you going to answer the question, senator hagel? the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straightforward question. i would like to answer whether you were right or wrong and then you are free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no answer. >> well it will show you refuse to answer this question. >> with us is host of "face the nation" and washington correspondent bob schieffer. the white house normally prep their nominees. what does this say about it? >> to me this is the most interesting and intreeging inginintriguing part of this whole deal. onormally the administration rushes out with the defense. he hardly left capitol hill yesterday when reports leaked out

you ever stomached sitting next to hagel for all those years or how john mccain could have said this in 2000 about secretary of defense positions. >> there's a lot of people that could do that. one of them i think is senator chuck hagel. >> then there were the democrats on the committee who seemed intent to steer clear of big questions opting instead to praise hagel's war service, praise israel or gently lead the witness back to approved foreign policy bromides and away tr dangerous taboos. >> your commitment that i ran should not under any circumstances have had ability to have a nuclear weapon. and i appreciate that position very much. >> and i appreciate your taking the time to meet with me. we had an extensive discussion and your understanding of the complex challenges we face in the middle east and the importance of our alliance with israel. >> i would like for you as the committee is getting to know you, know something about your service in vietnam and your combat experience. were you wounded, senator hagel? >> finally, there was the nominee himself, who appeared to have prepar

redeem tess entire war. and so you saw, for instance, john mccain, incredibly invested in redeeming the surge. check this out and then i want to hear your reaction to it. take a look. >> you stand by that -- those comments, senator hagel? >> well, senator, i stand by them because i made them. and -- >> were you right? were you correct in your assessment? >> well, i would defer to the judgment of history to sort that out, but i'll -- >> i think this committee deserves your judgment as to whether you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i made those comments and -- >> i want to know if you were right or wrong. that's a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> the surge assisted in the objective. but if we review the record a little bit -- >> can you please answer the question. were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect, yes or no? >> my reference to the -- >> are you answering the question, senator hagel? the question was were you rig

. accused john mccain of want to give social security, accused mike huckabee selling out in the dream act in arkansas. really most strident and we saw what happened. it's not simply, judy, hispanics. the country will be 9% asian in 2050. the electorate will be. that is a group of voters who have helped even more alienated from republicans. so you have got the republicans are looking at a country that is going to be a majority minority country in just over a generation. and they are increasingly white party. and -- >> are you saying that is an incentive. >> john mccain has been candid about it. he said my own state, the demographics of my own state are changing. it will be-- arizona will be a democratic state. general bush has predicted that by 2030 texas will be a blue state unless the republicans act on this. he's one of the few people who has sounded this alarm in his party. >> the republicans are actually pretty smart about this. they say immigration is a threshold issue. it is not enough to get the latino vote but you have to get over thatness. >> it's not the silver bullet. if mi

hostility of the questions especially from his former republican colleagues, beginning with john mccain who apparently is convinced at this point in his life the most seminal event in u.s. history was not the constitutional convention, concord, lexington or-- it was the surge. and where you stood on the surge. >> woodruff: in iraq. >> in iraq that determines whether, in fact, you are a visionary or a retrograde. but i was-- it was a lousy performance by chuck hagel. he obviously decided he wasn't going get confrontational. when ted cruz, the junior senator from texas basically accused him of dishonesty, raised questions about his honor, and-- the idea that chuck hagel, that david and i know didn't say wait a minute, you know, and he did at the last question, i'm out of time now but let me ask you about this about your speeches and what you reported and didn't report. i mean at that point chuck hagel says let me tell you, you know, you've just raised a question, i don't care about time or time being out this is my time to tell you, you know, that you are absolutely wrong and-- and that was j

immigrants undocumented immigrants illegals as he called them. accused john mccain of want to give social security accused mike huckabee selling out in the dream act in arkansas. really most strident and we saw what happened. it's not simply judy hispanics. the country will be 9% asian in 2050. the electorate will be. that is a group of voters who have helped even more alienated from republicans. so you have got the republicans are looking at a country that is going to be a majority minority country in just over a generation. and they are increasingly white party. and -- >> are you saying that is an incentive. >> john mccain has been candid about it. he said my own state the demographics of my own state are changing. it will be-- arizona will be a democratic state. general bush has predicted that by 2030 texas will be a blue state unless the republicans act on this. he's one of the few people who has sounded this alarm in his party. >> the republicans are actually pretty smart about this. they say immigration is a threshold issue. it is not enough to get the latino vote but you hav

those who -- john mccain, shall we say, he's probably going to be upset that chuck hagel was there supporting president obama when they were running against one another. you get that. but this is a pretty serious job, tony. this is defense secretary. i mean, do you think that kind of politics, those maybe personal issues should be brought up under these circumstances? >> look, my bias -- jill talked about this earlier about the bias towards the president being able to name the members of his cabinet. i'm a strong believer in this. i don't like the senate holding up the president trying to put his staff in place. i don't think that's what's going to happen here. but in terms of tough grilling at a hearing, these are all grownups. and certainly like i said, chuck hagel has seen it from the other side of the desk for many years. he was a leader of tough questioning of witnesses who sat before him. he's a grownup. he should have been better prepared for it. he should have handled it better. but they cab get through this just fine, i think. >> so just fine, jill, ultimately does hagel g